What Is The Pass Line In Craps
If you are looking for the safest bet at the craps table you want to bet either the pass line or don’t pass line with the maximum odds that the casino allows. The fundamental bet in craps is the pass line bet, which is a bet odds (up to the table limit) behind the Pass line at any time after a Line bet loses. A “craps” is when the shooter rolls a 2, 3, or 12 on the come-out roll. Here’s a rundown of all the various bets in craps (A) Pass Line. This is the basic bet that most players make, and it’s actually one of the bestbets on the layout, with a house edge of only 1.41%.
Las Vegas Craps Casinos - Best Table Odds - Bettling Limits
Vegas Craps Table Conditions - Table Minimums, Maximums, Odds
This page is a guide to craps conditions in Las Vegas. We've included sections for lowest and highest betting limits, and sections for which casinos offer the best table odds. The section about table odds is possibly the most important, because the amount you can bet on the 'Free Odds' bet in craps is always a multiple of what you bet on the 'Pass Line' bet. The higher that multiple is, the lower the house edge becomes. (Although the house edge is never 0% or negative, you can get the house edge pretty low if you can get a high enough multiple.)
Here are some examples of the house edge for Pass Line bets followed by Free Odds bets at various available multiples:
Table Odds | House Edge on Pass Line Bet + Free Odds |
| 1X | 0.85% |
| 2X | 0.61% |
| 3X | 0.47% |
| 5X | 0.33% |
| 10X | 0.18% |
| 20X | 0.10% |
| 100X | 0.02% |
The house edge on the 'Don't Pass' bet + free odds is about 0.15% lower than the Pass Line bet + free odds, but a lot of people don't like to bet against the shooter. The house edge on the Don't Pass bet + free odds is only 0.01%, which makes it the best bet in just about every casino if you're not counting cards at blackjack or something like that.
Best Odds Craps Casinos in Las Vegas
Casino Royale Craps on the Strip
The Casino Royale on the Las Vegas Strip offers 100X odds on their two craps tables. Their betting limits at the craps table range from a minimum bet of $3 to a maximum bet of $500, and the maximum odds bet you can place is $2500 per bet. The Casino Royale is located in the center of the Las Vegas Strip, next to Harrahs and across the street from the Mirage.
Sam's Town Craps on Boulder Highway
The best casino at which to play craps on the Boulder Highway is Sam's Town, where they offer 20X odds. That makes the house edge on the pass line bet + odds bet only 0.1%, which is as close to an even money bet as you will likely find at any Vegas casino game. Their minimum bet is $5 and the maximum bet is $3000, but they have a maximum odds bet of $5000. Sam's Town has four craps tables.
Main Street Station Craps Downtown
In downtown Vegas, the best odds craps can be found at Main Street Station, who offer 20X odds. The minimum bet there is $5, and the maximum bet is $1000. Main Street Station has three craps tables.
Highest Betting Limits on Craps in Vegas
$5000 is the practical maximum betting limit at the craps tables in Vegas. Several casinos offer a maximum bet of $5000, and we've listed them below, along with what kind of multiple the free odds bets offer.
| Casino | Table Odds |
| Golden Nugget | 6X, 8X, and 10X |
| Wynn Resort | 3-4-5X |
| Mirage | 3-4-5X |
| Treasure Island | 3-4-5X |
| Caesar's Palace | 3-4-5X |
| Venetian | 3-4-5X |
| Paris | 3-4-5X |
| Aladdin | 3-4-5X |
| Bally's | 3-4-5X |
| Bellagio | 3-4-5X |
| MGM | 3-4-5X |
3-4-5X odds is something a little different from what was discussed earlier. The house edge for casinos offering this is 0.37%, which makes it a respectable bet. When you make the maximum odds bet at one of these casinos, the payout is always seven times the bet no matter the result, instead of true odds. But the maximum amount you're allowed to bet is based on the point:
If the point is 4 or 10, then the max odds bet is 3X.
If the point is 5 or 9, then the max odds bet is 4X.
If the point is 6 or 8, the max odds bet is 5X.
Lowest Betting Limits Craps in Vegas
If you're just looking for the cheapest place to play craps in Las Vegas, then you're looking for the lowest betting limits. Slots a Fun, the Orleans, Sunset Station, Boulder Station, and both Arizona Charlies all offer minimum bets of $2. But Vegas has an even lower minimum craps game available at Nevada Palace, which is a neighborhood casino with only one craps table.
Best Place to Play Craps in Las Vegas
The best place to play craps in Vegas is the place where you're most comfortable with the table odds and betting limits. We've tried to provide a lot of information about casinos to choose from in order to play craps in Las Vegas, but there are other factors which might go into your playing decision, like whether or not the casino is someplace you'd actually be willing to stay, what the cocktail waitresses look like, or how friendly and active the craps games are. We hope this section has gotten you started in terms of places to think about playing though.
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If you understand the game and every last detail about it, there's no compelling reason to bet the pass line over the don't pass line or vice versa.
HOWEVER
Most people don't understand the game all that well. Especially the psychological aspects of the game. And for this reason, I am going to make the argument that if you want to prevent yourself from busting out, the don't pass line is a better approach.
I think this matters less for folks with patience enough to only bet on one number at a time instead of betting the come bet and other bets. But I wanted to get a discussion going about the psychology of having a better chance of staying in the game if you bet the don't pass instead of the pass.
http://gaming.nv.gov/modules/showdocument.aspx?documentid=9031
I can't say that if every blackjack table were converted to a craps table if that would continue to be the case. Blackjack has a lot less overhead in terms of square footage, personnel, and training dealers to be able to operate the game without losing money due to errors.
Part of what I am saying is that casinos tend to get bigger bets by encouraging players to parlay their winnings, ESPECIALLY on the place bets.
I have begun to really pull back my comments and just watch, and I really see dealers having players press their place bets so much so that nobody has a chance to win with those terrible compound edges on the 4, 5, 9, and 10. But even avoiding those subjects, just taking bets that are unlikely to win (bet bigger and bigger odds expecting to get extra-ordinarily lucky) it seems to set people up to fail.
People worry too much about the bet amount and not enough about the chance to win, effectively, is what I am thinking. Or when they want a better chance to win, they add in one-roll bet to ensure that they will get paid on the 2, 3, 11, or 12 instead of laying odds on a don't.
On the other hand, with the pass line, you can get 5 PSO's in a row, have a shooter hit 2 points, and you're back to even (or just about). But with the don'ts.....if the shooter hits 2 or 3 points, it's going to take 5+ seven out's to recoup (even though the seven out is more likely than hitting the point).
I don't like that psychological part of the don't pass.
I like
*that a player is less prone to demoralizing losing streaks
*how easy it is with 3x4x5x knowing what to put up for odds
*how the free odds are active bets all the time without having to say anything during the come-out
*having multiple DC bets rather than multiple Come bets up, for those times going for broke
but I don't like
*giving up the dice as the shooter after a 7-out.
*the temptation to switch back and forth trying to guess which way to go; it is stronger, and deadly
*missing out on the fun playing it dark when a shooter makes several hands... and you take a big hit, but it's not just about the money but the fun too
Come Bet Craps
*feeling a rookie dealer has to be watched carefully for errors
*giving up the dice as the shooter after a 7-out.
Same Bet Craps
I saw a guy shooting the dice from the dark-side for about 20 minutes the other day, just by himself (well, 2 others), but no action on the table really other than the line bets. He'd get 3-4 don't-come bets out there with some odds, hit the point, then rolled a 7 on the come out and won all his DC's. Then established a point, traveled 3-4 more DC's, hit the point, 7 on come-out to win all his DC's, rinse wash repeat.I thought it was pretty cool, since usually when a don't-shooter wins his bets, he loses the dice. But this guy was shooting 7's and winning his DC's during the come out roll (but of course, losing his don't-pass). He wasn't some dice-controller or anything like that. Just hit the right numbers at the right times.
So I've made this point to many people in the casino, but I've never really brought it up in an online forum, so I figured now is as good of a time as any.
If you understand the game and every last detail about it, there's no compelling reason to bet the pass line over the don't pass line or vice versa.
HOWEVER
Most people don't understand the game all that well. Especially the psychological aspects of the game. And for this reason, I am going to make the argument that if you want to prevent yourself from busting out, the don't pass line is a better approach.
I think this matters less for folks with patience enough to only bet on one number at a time instead of betting the come bet and other bets. But I wanted to get a discussion going about the psychology of having a better chance of staying in the game if you bet the don't pass instead of the pass.
I never ever played craps untill I found the Wiz's odds site.
Once reading the odds site, I am strictly a dark sider and I really enjoy playing craps in Vegas.
Surprised how few craps players play the dark side.
I allways smile and really enjoy the company of other darksiders at a craps table but its actually somewhat rare.
Its all about the odds in my opinion playing any game in Vegas.
What Is The Don't Pass Line In Craps
I also love throwing the dice. Its the only time I consider playing pass. Right now if not throwing the dice, strictly dark, if throwing, I find my self about half the time playing pass. Too me gambling is about fun and its fun to throw the dice.If you feel youe just HAVE to join the 'fun' of the DO bettors, then Place the 6/8 and cheer with the rest !!
Here are some 'quotes' from this site with the numbers proving the DON't betting:
1 in 9 will 7out on the 2nd roll (11.11%)
Slightly more than 1 in 9 will 7out on the 3rd roll (11.7%)
That makes about 22.8%.
So out of 1 million shooters (random AND DIs) over 228,000 will 7out by the 3rd roll.
Slightly more than 1 in 10 will 7out on the 4th roll (10.5%)
So, about 33.3% will 7out by the 4th roll.
50% of all shooters will 7out by the 6th roll.
You should know that about 60% of all shooters never make one point before they 7 out.
It is the odds on favorite and should be expected.
of course over any 10 shooter orbit about 1 in 8 will have 6 or more in a row not hitting one point.
No wonder why I have seen many high rollers (the smart craps players - some say the only smart players)
laying the point. They win the most times and the most money.
http://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/craps/10510-iron-cross-and-hedges/3/
Those that do not know the math or believe the math of what is expected by each shooter, mostly live by
their own superstitions or from unreliable facts from the memory of past events.
The 3rd roll by any shooter has the highest probability to 7out on. (relative column)
The second highest probability is the 2nd roll.
1 out of 3 shooters go out by their 4th roll
Half go out by their 6th roll
Craps Shooter Length of a Shooters Hand
rolls or more 1 in or less rolls relative 1 in
3 0.88888888888888 1.1 11.1111111111% 2 0.111111111 9.0
4 0.77211934156378 1.3 22.7880658436% 3 0.116769547 8.6
5 0.66735253772290 1.5 33.2647462277% 4 0.104766804 9.5
6 0.57612890882995 1.7 42.3871091170% 5 0.091223629 11.0
7 0.49721087042117 2.0 50.2789129579% 6 0.078918038 12.7
8 0.42904410662521 2.3 57.0955893375% 7 0.068166764 14.7
9 0.37019134854117 2.7 62.9808651459% 8 0.058852758 17.0
10 0.31939069865160 3.1 68.0609301348% 9 0.050800650 19.7
50% of all shooters will 7out by the 6th roll. [etc, etc]
You seem to be making a case for not paying even money on darkside lay bets. Oh, wait, they thought of that!
There are a couple reasons why I usually avoid playing the don't.
1. My bankroll. It's too small to be laying odds if I'm not doing so hot from the start.
2.The entertainment factor. Honestly, it's just not fun playing the DP. I hate not being able to cheer with everyone when they win and everyone being happy when everyone else is upset when they lose. I'm usually playing with friends who don't understand the game like I do. I've played the DP while they have played the PL and it was pretty awkward to say the least.
Bottom line is the PL offers way more entertainment value to me.